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So I just saw this movie with pretty high expectations, as you can't help but have them with any Nolan movie.
I didn't want to write a big review or anything but would love to hear some voices about it.
I respect Nolan highly as a movie maker and love almost all of his films. His cinematic syle just really speaks to me.
DKR was good, there was enough to make me appreciate it for what it was. But it's safe to say that I wasn't blown away by it as opposed to the Dark Knight which really is the best in the trilogy. In a way, successful movies tend to be the ones that are able to hit certain trends in society and bounce off of the zeitgeist so to say. The timing needs to be right. Somehow I believe that Nolan's large scale narrative movies have already been embedded and embraced into mainstream so they don't stand out so much as something new anymore. Society's trends are fast paced I feel. Landing a big hit once is fairly easy but doing it repeatedly is the real challenge.
Mad props go out to elevating a comic book character to such an epic and in depth scale in a trilogy that definitely is a huge achievement in movie making history.
Opinions are always subjective and you could probably go as far as explaining away any plot hole or ironing out uneven elements that one deems in need of explanation but others won't. It's just a matter of taste and how you choose to look at it I guess.
There are some plot elements that I didn't like so much and toward the end, some choices seemed a bit too forced or even unrealistic but it always stands against certain limits in a movie format and artistic liberties. If a director chooses to tell aspects in certain ways, let them. It's their vision after all they are bringing to life and I know from own experiences how demanding filmmaking is. (Honestly, sometimes I get annoyed with 'hard core fans' who extensively go out bashing every movie they can find, trying to sound superior when they have never tried to make a movie themselves.)
Personally & negatively speaking:
I didn't like some of the one-liners this time (which seemed to be taken straight from a Michael Bay movie) but then, we're looking at a PG-13 movie.
One of the twists they used at the end was just bad in my eyes. It ruins a lot of what is told up to that point and just didn't seem right.
Joseph Gordon Levitt's role was probably the most cleverly used I think. I really like how his character filled the story.
Anyway, what did you people think? I am curious to know how a 2nd viewing would affect my opinion.
The other day, I watched the Prestige for the 3rd time and I feel it's one of those movies that get better with repeated viewing.
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Have you seen The Dark Knight Returns (Animated) yet? Curious to know what you think about it.
For my generation, that was one of the great comic series, and many would say Frank Miller's Batman helped to define Nolan's vision, and the overall modern incarnation of the Batman.
Anyway, I thought it was the best in the trilogy. I am a massive Tom Hardy fan, and thought he and Nolan did a remarkable job doing that character justice ( after being just heartbroken, even as a kid, with the Schumaker Bane, I think this lends itself much more to the character from the Vengeance of Bane and the other comics.)
I thought Hathaway was great. The scene in the bar where the cops bust in, and she momentarily pretends to be scared and shrieking sold it for me.
I do wish that (BIG SPOILERS) the last scene, showing Bale and Hathaway as the cafe had been cut, and it jsut ending with Alfred looking at the camera, then smiling and nodding.
Bane was definitely the better thing in this movie althought I hated the twist for him.
Bane was insane, and yea, I suppose while the twist made him a tad less important, I didn't mind it. It fit with the whole idea of there not being a "villain" as much as "stuff" we have to fix.
I also hate that it's in NYC wtf, Gotham is meant to be dark, dirty and sinister not flashy with the lights of a big city.
Anne Hathaway was badly cast in my opinion and she was also not a well written character since most of her one liners and general behaviour didn't make any sense to me. Plus the whole movie could have easily taken place without her, give and take a couple scenes.
I also didn't understand the villain's dialogue in a lot of scenes but that's a widely received complaint. And also as a villain I thought he was a pretty basic character with very little to the imagination.
To me Batman just didn't do much in this film, I mean most of the film he is not doing anything. This is what I think made it a weak film because it makes everything drag. You want your hero to be a hero not weak and useless the entire film. Even in the fight scenes Bane comes across a lot better than Batman.
It sounds like a lot of complaints but I did actually enjoy the film. But it's definitely not one of Nolan's best. In fact it's poor for his standards.
As for the plot twist at the end, taken straight out of films like Running Scared (another film that is excellent but this plot twist is stupid). I have a problem with this plot twist because it exists solely to supply a happy ending even though you don't actually need one necessarily.
And i agree with most of your points more or less. But how they portrayed Batman's return/rise was kinda cool I think. Put a lot of emphasis on the hero aspect.
I am really curious what Nolan wants to do next.
I still have hope in him, sorta. But I find he spoon feeds his audiences too much. Too much talky explanations that are not needed. But I guess for big blockbuster films it doesn't matter. it will make money anyway.
Yeah i wish Nolan would return to being much more minimalistic with his storytelling.
Yes things more in the line of Prestige/Memento would be something to look forward to.